I agree, they were a breath of fresh air in a scene that was, at least to me, dominated by Victory Records heavy metal bands. I know TYF and some others took an exception to CIV being on a major label, but I loved that first record and always had fun at their shows.
It's funny that you made that post about Civ just about now. Did you know that he broke his foot on the recently Gorilla Biscuits brazilian tour? Walter replaced hi on vocals and it was both historical and awesome. Kids went nuts! If think it was even better than Youth of Today here last year.
Well, I only hope he can recover well and fast and come back down here for another tour!
CIV shows were always good times. I tried to see all of their shows in the LA area (1st and 4th Warped Tours, what was supposed to be the last Quicksand show, last Triggerman show at the Whisky), and being that I was just barely too young to have gotten to see GB before they broke up, CIV felt like the next best thing. Half of that first album could easily have been songs for the 2nd GB album that never got made.
It was so ironic that the band that was really championing that traditional late 80s style of hardcore was also on a major label and had guitar picks in Doritos bags and a video on MTV and had their song played at hockey games. It didn't bother me much. I am still puzzled as to why they wore bowling shirts and creepers (the dress code for Long Beach, CA meatheads). The last time I saw them, they were dressed like they were on a safari. Full on Crocodile Hunter mode. I kid you not.
CIV was a band that kind of got lost in some ways as far as the HC scene went because they were not GB. The fact is that Ben is right - the album in many ways was the next GB record. Walter wrote it, Civ sang it, Sammy was the drummer at the end of GB -
Civ was and is a nice guy that puts on a great show...
they're pretty boring visually, the musics good on the first record but that's it, so many better bands around than them, just open your eyes and ears.
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one of the best front mans of all-time. CIV's first album was a true kick in the ass to the sorry scene of hardcore at that time. good stuff!
ReplyDeleteI agree, they were a breath of fresh air in a scene that was, at least to me, dominated by Victory Records heavy metal bands. I know TYF and some others took an exception to CIV being on a major label, but I loved that first record and always had fun at their shows.
ReplyDeleteyeah, that first album was good, but the other hardcore at that time was good if you cared about "what was said" :)
ReplyDeleteGreat band! Walter wrote one heck of a record. WICKED!
ReplyDeleteIs there a band greater than that right now ? I don't think so..
ReplyDeleteIt's funny that you made that post about Civ just about now. Did you know that he broke his foot on the recently Gorilla Biscuits brazilian tour? Walter replaced hi on vocals and it was both historical and awesome. Kids went nuts! If think it was even better than Youth of Today here last year.
ReplyDeleteWell, I only hope he can recover well and fast and come back down here for another tour!
CIV shows were always good times. I tried to see all of their shows in the LA area (1st and 4th Warped Tours, what was supposed to be the last Quicksand show, last Triggerman show at the Whisky), and being that I was just barely too young to have gotten to see GB before they broke up, CIV felt like the next best thing. Half of that first album could easily have been songs for the 2nd GB album that never got made.
ReplyDeleteIt was so ironic that the band that was really championing that traditional late 80s style of hardcore was also on a major label and had guitar picks in Doritos bags and a video on MTV and had their song played at hockey games. It didn't bother me much. I am still puzzled as to why they wore bowling shirts and creepers (the dress code for Long Beach, CA meatheads). The last time I saw them, they were dressed like they were on a safari. Full on Crocodile Hunter mode. I kid you not.
Best song: "Solid Bond."
CIV was a band that kind of got lost in some ways as far as the HC scene went because they were not GB. The fact is that Ben is right - the album in many ways was the next GB record. Walter wrote it, Civ sang it, Sammy was the drummer at the end of GB -
ReplyDeleteCiv was and is a nice guy that puts on a great show...
thanks for sharing
I definitely consider it the next GB record. Just a name change is the only difference really. Good stuff!
ReplyDeleteBrings back good memories
ReplyDeleteJC Stark-Arts,
ReplyDeleteAND Arthur played bass in CIV (at the beginning at least). So that's one more thing that made them an extension of GB.
they're pretty boring visually, the musics good on the first record but that's it, so many better bands around than them, just open your eyes and ears.
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